WILLIAM GREGG {M} [P439] = AGNES CURRIE {F} [P440]
Married 26 Sep 1788, Ochiltree Ayrshire Scotland IGI-M11609-2
WILLIAM GREGG
Alias William GREIG
Alias William GREG
Born 28 Apr 1766, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11578-7
Christened 29 Apr 1766, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11578-7
Died May 1841, Failford Tarbolton Ayrshire Scotland
Buried 19 May 1841, Church Yard Tarbolton Ayrshire Scotland
OCCUPATION: Mason/DanceMaster/Master of Manners
IGI - William Greg: baptism: 29 Apr 1766 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 28 Apr 1766 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7 : Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'William Greg lawful son to James Greg Master of Manners and Janet Henderson his spouse born 20th April 1766 and baptised 29th April'.
SCR FR446
It is believed that our William is the son of James Greg. They are both known to have been 'Dancing Masters' and 'Master of Manners'. It is William who is credited as being the Dance Master to ROBERT BURNS at the Bachelors Club Tarbolton in the late 1770's. A fiddle said to be the one used by William at the time was presented to the Scottish National Trust in 1997 by a Major John Weir who acquired the fiddle from a local source in Tarbolton.
We have an OPR death record of a William Greg of this period who died as a boy, AYR :'William Greg son of James Greg aged 10 yrs and 3 months died of fever buried 1 December 1778'. This is about 4 months younger than the age of William[P439] in question, and may have been son to another James Greg.?
OPR TARBOLTON: 'William Gregg from Failford Hospital was interred at Tarbolton 19th May 1841'. First census in Scotland JUNE 1841 just too late.
William's age would have been 75 when he died (assuming the birth details/parents accredited to him are correct[1997ADG]).
William's name was spelled 'Gregg' when he died.
William's son John[P457] inherited the 'Gregg Fiddle'
AGNES CURRIE
Alias AGNES GREGG (26 Sep 1788)
Born 1766, St Quivox Ayrshire Scotland
Died 2 Oct 1855, Failford Ayrshire Scotland
Buried 1855, Tarbolton Church Yard - Ayrshire Scotland
OCCUPATION: Weaver
NO LDS IGI Records
Many family details have been confirmed from Agnes' Death certificate[1855] giving information for husband,children and names of her parents. It also confirmed her own birth place to have been St. Quivox Ayrs. Agnes and William lived the latter years of their lives at Failford Alms Houses, also known as Failford Hospitan and as Coopers Hospital, where Agnes outlived William by 10 years, and died of 'Natural Decay' aged 90 - 2 October 1855. Informant - Son William
1841 and 1851 census at Failford Hospital shows Agnes as being Dancing Teachers widow age 75 and 84* respectively.
According to details on her Death Cert.(1855 ) Agnes was born in St Quivox(1766). Parents William Currie(wright) and Elizabeth Reid. Details of a Margaret also born in St Quivox(1774) to William Currie/Elizabeth Reid suggests she was most likely sister to Agnes.
1841 CENSUS Piece: SCT1841/619 Place: Tarbolton-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Tarbolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Folio: 0 Page: 9
Address: Coopers Hospital Failford
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUMPHREY James M 83 Inmate Ayrshire
GREGG Agnes F 75 Inmate Ayrshire [M/S Currie]
CREE Barbara F 47 Ayrshire
PEDEN Alexr. M 74 Inmate Ayrshire
MCGILBREY Daniel M 70 Outside Census County (1841)
MCGILBREY Agnes F 68 Ayrshire
HILLHOUSE Elisabeth F 89 Inmate Ayrshire
GUTHRIE James M 30 Agr Labourer Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Sarah F 30 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Jean F 7 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Margaret F 4 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Janet F 2 Ayrshire
AULD Thomas M 25 Tile Mounter Ayrshire
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Piece: SCT1851/619 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Tarbolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Tarbolton Folio: 0 Page: 1 Schedule: 0
Address: Failford Hospital
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCGRIGOR Margret Matron W F 65 Innkeepers Widow Ayrshire - Tarbolton She does not reside in the hospital.
CREE - Ptient U F 55 Formerly Farm Servant Ayrshire - St Quivox(Originally: Ayrshire - St Evox) Forename incomplete, maybe Sara.
CREE - Visitr U F 22 Stocking Knitter Ayrshire - Cumnock Disability: Blind Page torn, forename possibly Christina.
STEWART - Ptient W F 75 Formerly Farmers Wife Ayrshire - St Quivox(Originally: Ayrshire - St Evox) Page torn, forename missing.
MORTON - Ptient W M 79 Formerly Old Farmer Ayrshire - Mauchline Pg torn, forename missing. Status uncertain.
MCILVRAY - Ptient M M 78 Formerly Ag Lab Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, forename missing.
MCILVRAY - Ptient M F 81 Formerly Ag Labs Wife Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, forename missing.
GIBBS - Ptient W F 76 Formerly Ag Labs Widow Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, forename missing.
CURRIE - Ptient W F 84 Dancing Teachers Widow Ayrshire - St Quivox(Originally: Ayrshire - St Evox) Page torn, forename missing. [Now listed under maiden name]
CRAWFORD Martha Ptient U F 57 Formerly Infant Teacher Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, first half of forename missing.
James GREGG {M} [P463] = Mary MACKENZIE {F} [P448] > Family [F423]
Married 14 Jun 1811, Ochiltree Ayrs Scotland IGI M11609-2
James GREGG
Born 17 Jul 1789, 'Bonnyton' Ochiltree Ayrs Scotland
Christened 19 Jul 1789, Ochiltree Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11609-2
Died BEF Oct 1855, 'Died abroad' Date/Place unknown
OCCUPATION: Died abroad
SOURCE: OPR/SCR FR398 + SCR marriage
OPR Ochiltree: 'James Greig lawful son to William Greig and Agnes Currie in Bonnyton was baptised 19th July 1789'.
James surname spelled Greig in birth records but Gregg in marriage records
Note:-ADG-This marriage found in SCR-yet to be proved as this James: OPR OCHILTREE: 'James Gregg in this parish and Mary Mckenzie in parish of Stair after regular proclamation were married 14th June 1811'.
From details on James' mother Agnes Currie's death certificate[2/10/1855] we know only that James 'died abroad'. Also no records of children found to this couple to date(2011).
Name: James Greig Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Jul 1789 Baptism/Christening Place: , OCHILTREE, AYR, SCOTLAND Father's Name: William Greig Mother's Name: Agnes Currie Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11609-2 System Origin: Scotland-VR Source Film Number: 1041401
Reference Number: 2:16H5S62
Mary MACKENZIE
Alias Mary GREIG (14 Jun 1811)
Alias Mary GREGG (14 Jun 1811)
Born Feb 1790, New Cumnock Ayrs IGI 7018203
Christened 21 Feb 1790, New Cumnock
SOURCE: OPR/IGI
Elizabeth GREGG {F} [P464] = John PETTIGREW {M} [P465] > Family [F149]
Married 15 Jul 1814, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI M11619-4
Elizabeth GREGG
Alias Elizabeth PETTIGREW (14 Jun 1814)
Born Jul 1791, Mauchline Ayrs Scotland IGI
Christened 10 Jul 1791, Mauchline Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11604-2
Died 16 Aug 1874, Tarbolton (Montgomery St) Ayrs
OCCUPATION: silk weaver
IGI - Elizabeth Gregg baptism 10 Jul 179, MAUCHLINE, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: William Gregg mother's name: Agnes Currie: C11604-2 system origin: Scotland-VR
OPR MAUCHLINE: 'William Gregg mason in Mauchline and Agnes Currie his spouse . Their daughter baptised 10th July 1791 called Elizabeth'.
Elizabeth was still living in 1855 as shown on her mothers death certificate, and in the 1851and 1861census records she was shown as a widow.
1861 census 17 Montgomery Street Tarbolton:
Elizabeth Pettigrew head widow 70 silk weaver b.Mauchline M/S Gregg
William Gregg brother unmarried 61 silk weaver b.Tarbolton
Janet Pettigrew grand-daughter 14 scholar b.Tarbolton
John PETTIGREW
Born Nov 1791, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI
Christened 21 Nov 1791, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C11554-2
Died 1844, Tarbolton Ayrs - M.I.
OCCUPATION: Tailor
NOTE: On the 1841 Census for Tarbolton Ayrshire John Pettigrew was stated as 'Born out of County' [ADG Jan 2002]
Possibilitie for birth and parents:
IGI - John Petticrew baptism 21 Nov 1791, KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND father's name: John Petticrew mother's name: Euphan Cook : C11554-2 Scotland-VR
Alternate parents:
IGI Marriage: groms name JOHN PETTICREW - Spouse: MARY MAC DOUGALD 21 AUG 1792 Kilmory, Bute, Scotland M115544
I received notification from one Mark Pettigrew(CEng.Mech) b.1967 - via e-mail - for the descendants of John Pettigrew.(see P466 William). It is thought that John died in 1844 . There was an interrment at Tarbolton in that year for a John Petticrew. Also John did not appear on the 1851 or 1861 census having appeared on the 1841 census[ADG Jan 2002]
Born 18 Dec 1793, Gorbals Glasgow Lanark Scotland
Christened ABT Jan 1794, Glasgow Gorbals District Lanark Scotland
Died 1879, Tarbolton? infant
SOURCE: OPR
OPR GLASGOW: 'William Greig mason had a son brought fourth by his wife Agnes Currie upon 18th December 1793 called William'.
A second child was named William born 1800 so it is assumed this first William died pre age 7, before William[P475] was born[P475]
IGI - WILLIAM GREIG Birth: 18 DEC 1793 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland Parents: Father: WILLIAM GREIG, Mother: AGNES CURRIE Source Information: Batch Number: 7426109 Sheet: 05 Source Call No.: 0935195
JOHN GREGG {M} [P457] = JEAN GIBSON {F} [P458] > Family [F146]
Married 27 Nov 1818, Tarbolton Ayrs IGI A471905-SCR-FR441
JOHN GREGG
Born Jan 1798, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI
Christened 14 Jan 1798, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11619-4
Died Jul 1840, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland
Buried 17 Jul 1840, Tarbolton Church Yard
OCCUPATION: weaver
SOURCE: OPR/IGI/SCR FR298&45
IGI - John Gregg baptism: 14 Jan 1798 , TARBOLTON, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: William Gregg mother's name: Agnes Currie C11619-4
OPR TARBOLTON:' John Gregg lawful son to William Gregg and Agnes Currie in Tarbolton baptised 14th January 1798'.
John inherited the 'Gregg Fiddle' from his father William P439 - handed down to his son William P489.
OPR TARBOLTON: 'John Gregg interred at Tarbolton 17th July 1840'. John died aged 42.
JEAN GIBSON
Alias Jean GREGG (27 Nov 1818)
Born 1791, Coylton Ayrs Scotland
Died 3 Feb 1866, 10 James St. Tarbolton Ayrshire
OCCUPATION: Weaver/pirn winder
SOURCE: census/certs.
Jean Gibson's life seems to have been tragic. Her father[a miller at Coylton] died aged about 40 in 1791 the same year Jean was born. Her daughter Janet died age 15 in 1836 and son James died in February 1840 aged 21.That same year Jean's husband John Gregg died in July 1840 age 42 leaving her with 4 young children. Jeans youngest daughter also named Jean had an illegitimate child at age 21 in 1855. However, Jean Gibson survived until she was 75 of age.
According to Robbie Wilson:
12. John Gregg, born January 14, 1798 in Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland; died Bef. 1851. He was the son of 24. William Gregg and 25. Agnes Currie. He married 13. Jean Gibson November 27, 1818 in Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland.[ Correct-ADG 2005]
13. Jean Gibson, born June 18, 1794 in Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland [ The WRONG Jean Gibson - ADG 2005 ];
Died February 03, 1866 in 10 St. James Street, Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland.[ Correct-ADG 2005].
She was the daughter of 26. James Gibson and 27. Margaret Denholm.[ Correct-ADG 2005]
Born Mar 1800, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI
Christened 9 Mar 1800, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11619-4
Died 9 Feb 1879, Tarbolton [Unmarried]
Buried Tarbolton Church yard
OCCUPATION: silk weaver
IGI - William Gregg baptism 09 Mar 1800 baptism, TARBOLTON, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: William Gregg mother's name: Agnes Currie: C11619-4
OPR TARBOLTON: 'William Gregg lawful son to William Gregg and Agnes Currie in Tarbolton baptised 9th march 1800'.
William may have been the father to Janet Norton Gregg[P493]
Piece: SCT1841/619 Place: Tarbolton-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Tarbolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 1
Address: Montgomerie Streeet
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GIBB Margaret F 40 Druggist Ayrshire
GREGG William M 40 Silk Handloom Weaver Ayrshire
PEEBLES Alexr. M 25 Agricultural Labourer Ayrshire
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William appears on a 1861 census at 17 Montgomery Street Tarbolton aged 61 unmarried and a silk weaver. He was living with his widowed sister Elizabeth[P464]. William died unmarried in 1879 - ailment was general Paralysis 10 days! Witness to cert John Gregg-nephew
1861 census 17 Montgomery Street Tarbolton:
Elizabeth Pettigrew head widow 70 silk weaver b.Mauchline M/S Gregg
William Gregg brother unmarried 61 silk weaver b.Tarbolton
Janet Pettigrew grand-daughter 14 scholar b.Tarbolton
Agnes GREGG {F} [P461] = Robert WELSH {M} [P462] > Family [F148]
Married 21 Sep 1832, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland SCR-FR685
Agnes GREGG
Alias Agnes WELSH (21 Sep 1832)
Born 13 Jul 1803, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11619-4
Christened 16 Jul 1803, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11619-4
Died 30 May 1863, Tarbolton
Buried Tarbolton Church Yard
OCCUPATION: Silk Weaver
IGI - Agnes Gregg baptism 16 Jul 1803, TARBOLTON, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 13 Jul 1803 father's name: William Gregg mother's name: Agnes Currie C11619-4
OPR SCR F312 TARBOLTON: 'Agnes Gregg lawful daughter of William Gregg and Agnes Currie in Tarbolton baptised 16th July 1803'.
Agnes died aged 60 of fever according to her death cert. No.45 Tarbolton.
Robert WELSH
Born EST 1806, Ayrshire?
Died 1 Jan 1875, Tarbolton
OCCUPATION: silk weaver
SOURCE: OPR/IGI
Name varies in spelling from Welch to Welsh. Robert died from congestion to lungs according to his death cert. No.1 Tarbolton. Robert's father was named William Welch and his mother ... Strawthorn.
IGI Marriage: William Grieg bride's name: Agnes Currie 26 Sep 1788 Ochiltree, Ayr, Scotland: M11609-2: Scotland-ODM
OPR OCHILTREE: 'William Greig and Agnes Currie both of this parish after regular proclamation were married 26th September 1788'.
William is said to have been a Master of Manners and the Dance Master at the Bachelors Club in Tarbolton in the late 1770's and dance tutor to Robert Burns. A Fiddle said to have belonged to him was presented to the National Trust in July 1997[Ayrshire Post - 20th June 1997]. The presenter was a Major John Weir Chairman of the Batchelors Club committee. It was stated the fiddle was handed down through several generations of his family , but this was incorrect . John Weir accquired it from a local source in Tarbolton. Williams relationship to those currenly thought [by Matthew Greig b.15/10/1923] to be his parents is still to be proved. If James Greg was indeed William's father, then he too was known to have been a Master of Manners and a Dance master, so it could have been either or both who was the Dance Master to Burns. William would have been only in his early teens!
A querie arises where a William Greg[son of James Greg] is recorded as having died aged 10 years(Ayr] at the time this William was also aged 10.
William and his wife Agnes Currie lived out their final years at Failford Alms Hospital which was errected from a legacy left by the late Alexander Cooper esq. of Failford and upheld by the same legacy. Although the premises were burnt down and no longer exist the legacy is still in force and is managed by a committee who are still to decide what to do with the funds[ADG1997].
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