JAMES GREG {M} [P437] = JANET HENDERSON {F} [P438]
Married EST 1753, Ayr Ayrs Scotland
JAMES GREG
Born EST 1730, Ayrs? Ayrshire Scotland
Died .
OCCUPATION: Master of Manners/Land Surveyer
James is recorded as Land Surveyer/ Master of Manners and Dance Master in various documents. His son William is also described as a 'Dance Master'
OPR records for childrens births are a source for this James' existance
JANET HENDERSON
Alias Janet GREG (EST 1752)
Born EST 1732, Ayr? Ayrshire Scotland
Died .
(Janet Henderson's existance is verified from her Childrens OPR's
ALTERNATIVE POSSIBILITY: Janet HENDERSON Sex: F Birth: 5 Nov 1732 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland Parents: Father: John HENDERSON Mother: Beatrix CADDELL Film Number: 177912 Page Number: 1096 Reference Number:42328 )
Born 4 Aug 1754, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Christened 18 Aug 1754, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Died BEF 1767, died as child
IGI - James Greg baptism: 18 Aug 1754 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 04 Aug 1754 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7: Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'James Greg lawful son to James Greg master of manners and Janet Henderson his spouse born 8th August 1754 and baptised 18th August'. James would have been named after his father. It is assumed the boy died before 1767 when another James was born.
Also SCR FR360
Margaret GREG {F} [P445] = William BAIRD {M} [P452] > Family [F144]
Married 27 Jul 1775, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI M11963-2
Margaret GREG
Alias Margaret BAIRD (27 Jul 1775)
Born 14 Feb 1756, Ayr Ayrshire Scotland IGI - C115787-7
Christened 19 Feb 1756, Ayr Ayrshire Scotland IGI - C115787-7
Died .
IGI - Greg baptism: 19 Feb 1756 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 14 Feb 1756 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson : C11578-7: Scotland-ODM
On a torn page in the Ayr parish register a child is recorded to have been born in 1756 to James Greg & Janet Henderson.
OPR AYR: '......... ....... to James Greg and Janet Henderson his spouse born 18th and baptised 19th February 1756'.
Unfortunately the Name and gendre was missing but an OPR marriage entry for 1775 at Ayr was found by Matthew Greig[Giffnock] for a Margaret Greg married to William Baird.
The OPR reads 'William Baird sailor and Margaret Greg daughter of James Greg Dancing Master gave in their names to be proclaimed in order to marriage and after proclamation they were married accordingly on 22nd July 1775'. They also named their first child JAMES. It is most likely the marriage refers to Margaret daughter of James and Janet, the birth entry of which is torn.
No child births other than James has been found to William Baird and Margaret Greg [ADG 2005]
William BAIRD
Born EST 1754, Ayr ? Scotland
Died .
OCCUPATION: Sailor
Born 13 Apr 1758, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Christened 14 Apr 1758, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
IGI - Marion Greg baptism14 Apr 1758 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 13 Apr 1758 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7 system origin: Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: ' Marion Greg lawful daughter to James Greg and Janet Henderson his spouse born 13th April 1758. baptised 14th'.
SCR FR385
Born 11 Oct 1759, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Christened 12 Oct 1759, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
IGI - Lillas Greg baptism 12 Oct 1759 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 11 Oct 1759 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7: Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'Lillias Greg lawful daughter to James Greg and Janet Henderson his spouse. Born 11th October 1759. Baptised 12th October'.
Jean GREGG {F} [P380] = William BROWN {M} [P382] > Family [F127]
Married EST 1780, Kilmarnock Ayrs(IGI)
Jean GREGG
Alias Jean BROWN (EST 1774)
Born 8 Sep 1761, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Christened 9 Sep 1761, Ayr Ayrs Scotland. IGI C11578-7
Died BEF 1798, Pre1798 Petition by daughter Janet
IGI - Jean Greg baptism 09 Sep 1761: AYR,AYR,SCOTLAND birth date: 08 Sep 1761 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7 Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'Jean Greg lawful daughter to James Greg Dancing Master and Janet Henderson his spouse born 8th September 1761 and baptised 9th September'. This Jean is probably the Jean Gregg[P380] who married William Brown[P382] C.1779
We know that Jeans father was a Land Surveyer as stated on the birth record of her son William Wallace Brown. It is suggested by Matthew Greig[Gifnock] that Jean may have been daughter to James Greg[P437] and Janet Henderson[P438][F142-Ayr]. Likely in that two children to this marriage named James and Janet.
James was known as a Master of Manners and a Dance Master but Jeans father was described as Land Surveyer on the birth record of her son William Wallace.
Jean had died by 1798 when a Petition raised on behalf of her daughter Janet DELLA Brown described Jean as the late spouse of William Brown
William BROWN
Born EST 1744, Kilmarnock
OCCUPATION: Write/Solicitor
Born 10 Sep 1763, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Christened 21 Sep 1763, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
IGI - Alexander Greg baptism: 21 Sep 1763: AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 10 Sep 1763 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7: Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'Alexander Greg laful son to James Greg Master of Manners and Janet Henderson his spouse born 10th September 1763 and baptised 21st September'.
SCR FR424 states baptised 21 Sep 1763.
WILLIAM GREGG {M} [P439] = AGNES CURRIE {F} [P440] > Family [F143]
Married 26 Sep 1788, Ochiltree Ayrshire Scotland IGI-M11609-2
WILLIAM GREGG
Alias William GREIG
Alias William GREG
Born 28 Apr 1766, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11578-7
Christened 29 Apr 1766, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11578-7
Died May 1841, Failford Tarbolton Ayrshire Scotland
Buried 19 May 1841, Church Yard Tarbolton Ayrshire Scotland
OCCUPATION: Mason/DanceMaster/Master of Manners
IGI - William Greg: baptism: 29 Apr 1766 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 28 Apr 1766 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7 : Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'William Greg lawful son to James Greg Master of Manners and Janet Henderson his spouse born 20th April 1766 and baptised 29th April'.
SCR FR446
It is believed that our William is the son of James Greg. They are both known to have been 'Dancing Masters' and 'Master of Manners'. It is William who is credited as being the Dance Master to ROBERT BURNS at the Bachelors Club Tarbolton in the late 1770's. A fiddle said to be the one used by William at the time was presented to the Scottish National Trust in 1997 by a Major John Weir who acquired the fiddle from a local source in Tarbolton.
We have an OPR death record of a William Greg of this period who died as a boy, AYR :'William Greg son of James Greg aged 10 yrs and 3 months died of fever buried 1 December 1778'. This is about 4 months younger than the age of William[P439] in question, and may have been son to another James Greg.?
OPR TARBOLTON: 'William Gregg from Failford Hospital was interred at Tarbolton 19th May 1841'. First census in Scotland JUNE 1841 just too late.
William's age would have been 75 when he died (assuming the birth details/parents accredited to him are correct[1997ADG]).
William's name was spelled 'Gregg' when he died.
William's son John[P457] inherited the 'Gregg Fiddle'
AGNES CURRIE
Alias AGNES GREGG (26 Sep 1788)
Born 1766, St Quivox Ayrshire Scotland
Died 2 Oct 1855, Failford Ayrshire Scotland
Buried 1855, Tarbolton Church Yard - Ayrshire Scotland
OCCUPATION: Weaver
NO LDS IGI Records
Many family details have been confirmed from Agnes' Death certificate[1855] giving information for husband,children and names of her parents. It also confirmed her own birth place to have been St. Quivox Ayrs. Agnes and William lived the latter years of their lives at Failford Alms Houses, also known as Failford Hospitan and as Coopers Hospital, where Agnes outlived William by 10 years, and died of 'Natural Decay' aged 90 - 2 October 1855. Informant - Son William
1841 and 1851 census at Failford Hospital shows Agnes as being Dancing Teachers widow age 75 and 84* respectively.
According to details on her Death Cert.(1855 ) Agnes was born in St Quivox(1766). Parents William Currie(wright) and Elizabeth Reid. Details of a Margaret also born in St Quivox(1774) to William Currie/Elizabeth Reid suggests she was most likely sister to Agnes.
1841 CENSUS Piece: SCT1841/619 Place: Tarbolton-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Tarbolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Folio: 0 Page: 9
Address: Coopers Hospital Failford
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUMPHREY James M 83 Inmate Ayrshire
GREGG Agnes F 75 Inmate Ayrshire [M/S Currie]
CREE Barbara F 47 Ayrshire
PEDEN Alexr. M 74 Inmate Ayrshire
MCGILBREY Daniel M 70 Outside Census County (1841)
MCGILBREY Agnes F 68 Ayrshire
HILLHOUSE Elisabeth F 89 Inmate Ayrshire
GUTHRIE James M 30 Agr Labourer Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Sarah F 30 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Jean F 7 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Margaret F 4 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Janet F 2 Ayrshire
AULD Thomas M 25 Tile Mounter Ayrshire
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Piece: SCT1851/619 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Tarbolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Tarbolton Folio: 0 Page: 1 Schedule: 0
Address: Failford Hospital
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCGRIGOR Margret Matron W F 65 Innkeepers Widow Ayrshire - Tarbolton She does not reside in the hospital.
CREE - Ptient U F 55 Formerly Farm Servant Ayrshire - St Quivox(Originally: Ayrshire - St Evox) Forename incomplete, maybe Sara.
CREE - Visitr U F 22 Stocking Knitter Ayrshire - Cumnock Disability: Blind Page torn, forename possibly Christina.
STEWART - Ptient W F 75 Formerly Farmers Wife Ayrshire - St Quivox(Originally: Ayrshire - St Evox) Page torn, forename missing.
MORTON - Ptient W M 79 Formerly Old Farmer Ayrshire - Mauchline Pg torn, forename missing. Status uncertain.
MCILVRAY - Ptient M M 78 Formerly Ag Lab Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, forename missing.
MCILVRAY - Ptient M F 81 Formerly Ag Labs Wife Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, forename missing.
GIBBS - Ptient W F 76 Formerly Ag Labs Widow Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, forename missing.
CURRIE - Ptient W F 84 Dancing Teachers Widow Ayrshire - St Quivox(Originally: Ayrshire - St Evox) Page torn, forename missing. [Now listed under maiden name]
CRAWFORD Martha Ptient U F 57 Formerly Infant Teacher Ayrshire - Mauchline Page torn, first half of forename missing.
James GREGG {M} [P381] = Lewis BROWN {F} [P385] > Family [F126]
Married 17 May 1790, Kilmarnock Ayrs Scotland IGI-M19908-2
James GREGG
Born 27 Dec 1767, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Christened 1 Jan 1768, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
Died BEF 1860, Probably Kilmarnock Ayrs Scotland
OCCUPATION: Writer/lawyer/Barrister
IGI - James Greg baptism: 01 Jan 1768 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 27 Dec 1767 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7 : Scotland-ODM
SCR FR461
OPR AYR: 'James Greg lawful son to James Greg Master of Manners and Janet Henderson his spouse born 27th December 1767 and baptised 1st January 1768'.
Although relationship to James Greg and Janet Henderson is recorded in parish records, it is assumed[ADG1997] that this is the same person who married Lewis Brown. James is later described as a writer - being lawyer/solicitor in Scotland. James named his first two children after his wifes parents - Anne and William. His next two were named James and Janet after his own parents.
In June 1807 James Gregg was known as Writer and Town Clerk, Kilmarnock
This James was the second boy to be named James. The older brother must have died prior to 1767.
May 2004. From The archives of Gebbie & Wilson Solicitors of Starthaven. 'William Gebbie - Founder of Gebbie & Wilson Solicitors of Starthaven. 'On 1st June 1807, William was apprenticed as a Lawyer to JAMES GREGG, Writer and Town Clerk, Kilmarnock. After a five years apprenticeship, from which he was honourably discharged on 13th June 1812 (aged 18), he proceeded to Glasgow where he found congenial work at the University and in the office of Grahame & Mitchell, Writers.
For reasons not entirely clear, Strathaven was chosen as the place to set up his own practice and he arrived in September 1816. Interestingly, the original of the letter to his mother is, together with copies of his first business correspondence dated 5th September 1816, still held in the archives of the firm. He was formally admitted as a Procurator before the Sheriff Court in Hamilton on 22nd November 1816 and continued to practice until his death on 11th April 1865 in his 72nd Year.'
Lewis BROWN
Alias Lewis GREGG (17 May 1790)
Born 27 Sep 1771, Kilmarnock Ayrs
Christened 27 Sep 1771, Kilmarnock
Died BEF 1860
OPR KILMARNOCK: 'Brown Lewis. William Brown writer in Kilmarnock and Anne Hunter spouses had their 2nd child born and baptised 27th September 1771 named Lewis'.
The name may have been Lervis/Lowis[ADG1997]. The register showed Lewis as being a male but it is believed Lewis was a female and later[aged 19] married James Gregg 17th May 1790. Also record for William Wallace Brown[half brother to Lewis] born 28th November 1780 states He was 3rd SON to William Brown.
CENSUS: 1851. Piece: SCT1851/611 Place: Riccarton-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 23
Civil Parish: Riccarton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Riccarton
Folio: 0 Page: 34 Schedule: 127. Address: Wallacehill
GREGG Lowis Head W F 79 Annuitant Ayrshire - Kilmarnock [P381]
GREGG Lilly Dau U F 38 Ayrshire - Kilmarnock [P406]
SYM Lowis Dau W F 47 Annuitant (Visitor) Ayrshire - Kilmarnock [P402]
SYM Lowis Grndau U F 24 (Visitor) Ayrshire - Kilmarnock [P1423]
HOOD Mary Servnt U F 15 House Servant Ayrshire - Symington
MATHIE Margt Nurse U F 45 Laundress Wigtownshire - Galloway
Born 15 Oct 1771, Ayr Ayrs Scotland. IGI C11578-7
Christened 28 Oct 1771, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI C11578-7
IGI - Ivy Greg gender: Male baptism 28 Oct 1771 AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 15 Oct 1771 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Janet Henderson: C11578-7 : Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'Ivy Greg lawful son to James Greg Master of Manners and Janet Henderson his spouse born 15th October 1771 and baptised 28th October'. Note: Ivy and Ivie were popular names for males in Ayrshire during this period.
No recorded marriage has yet[ADG1999] been traced for James and Janet but OPR details for their childrens births are all available. Hence estimated marriage date and birth dates for both.
It is unusual that there appears no record(to date 1999) of a child named Janet, although periods between 1763-1766 and 1767-1771 would facilitate the births of further children.
We have only four possible marriages recorded to date(1999) for children of James and Janet. It may be that others married outside of Ayr.