THOMAS DOYLE {M} [P514] = CATHERINE MCHUTCHEON {F} [P515]
Married 26 Dec 1855, Ayr Ayrs [R.C Chapel] IGI M115781
THOMAS DOYLE
Born 1835, County Down IRELAND
Died 18 Nov 1904, Kyle Union Poorhouse Ayr Ayrs
OCCUPATION: Drainer/contractor
SOURCE: certs
Thomas described as:
1858 Ploughman - son Thomas(1) birth cert.
1859 Labourer at Quay - daughter Margaret's birth cert.
1861 Agricultural labourer - Census at Kilmory.
1871 Agricultural labourer - Census at Kilmory.
1873 Labourer(drainer) - son Thomas's death cert.
1881Gen Labourer - Census Kilmory
(1881 Listed as a Stray on Ayrshire Census return was a Thomas Doile)
1885 Contractor - daughter Esther's marriage cert.
1887 Labourer in gas works - daughter Rachael's marriage cert.
1889 Drainer - daughter Izabella's marriage cert.
1891 Drainer - daughter Catherine's marriage cert.
1891 Thomas was not listed on the Census at Newton on Ayr Ayrshire in 1891, Yet his wife Catherine was listed as 'Wife'
1895 Drainer - wifes death cert.
1904 Drainer - His own death cert. Thomas died in the Kyle Union Poorhouse in Ayr.
1921 Drainage Contractor - on daughter Esthers death cert.
Thomas died in the Kyle Union Poorhouse in Ayr aged 69 [18 Nov 1904]
The 'Poor law Unions' were set up in Scotland in 1845. Each Union was governed by a Board of Guardians and not abolished untill 1948. If elderly people were taken into the workhouse under the poorlaw they usually stayed there untill they died and were buried as paupers. It is strange that Thomas had a large family and yet ended his life under such circumstances. Although still alive in 1891 he was not shown on the census for his family home.
CATHERINE MCHUTCHEON
Alias Catherine DOYLE (26 Dec 1855)
Born 1833, County Down IRELAND
Died 5 Jan 1895, 59 Allison Street Newton-on-Ayr Ayrs
SOURCE: census/burial index
On Catherine's death cert. in 1895 her parents are described as JAMES McHutcheon (shoemaker) and CATHERINE McHutcheon (MAIDEN SURNAME UNKNOWN). The informant was Catherine's husband Thomas! Yet Catherine's parents were clearly named on Thomas and Catherines wedding certificate as THOMAS McHUTCHEON (not JAMES) and her mother named ALICE SMITH (not CATHERINE).
Born 13 Oct 1856, Ayr Ayrs IGI-C115781
OCCUPATION: Plumber
SOURCE: IGI + certs
James married ?.. Walker C.1800. Burial register records at Kilwinning name James children 'Walker' for second names
Born 14 Apr 1858, Shawhill Cottage St Quivox Ayrs IGI-C116121
OCCUPATION: Died as infant
John (1) died in infancy.
Thomas Doyle-his father-recorded as a ploughman at time of Johns birth.
MARGARET DOYLE {F} [P513] = MATTHEW PATON GREGG {M} [P512] > Family [F163]
Married 1 Mar 1878, Newton Ayr Scotland
MARGARET DOYLE
Alias MARGARET GREGG (1 Mar 1878)
Born 28 Jul 1859, Content Street Wallacetown St Quivox Ayrs Sc IGI-C115871
Died 26 Jan 1934, 8 Nelson Street Newmilns Ayrs Scotland
Buried 29 Jan 1934, Tarbolton Church yard[273]
Margaret died of cerebral Heamorrage - Death Cert. No.006 Galston.
MATTHEW PATON GREGG
Born 3 Mar 1857, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11619-1
Died 22 Dec 1909, 65 East Main Street Darvel Ayrs Scotland
Buried Tarbolton Church Yard[273]
OCCUPATION: Wood Turner/Tapestry/Silk Weaver
IGI - Matthew Gregg birth date: 03 Mar 1857 birthplace: TARBOLTON, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: William Gregg mother's name: Agnes Paton C11619-1
Matthew died aged 52 of Pulmanary Terberculosis - Death Cert. No.52 Loudon.
John(2) DOYLE[DALE] {M} [P522] = Emily Rosina RICKETTS {F} [P523] > Family [F168]
Married EST 1902, Guisborough Yorkshire Eng(Possible)
John(2) DOYLE[DALE]
Born 16 Feb 1861, Bennecarrigan Kilmory Bute Sc. IGI-C115541
Died 26 Feb 1922, Mexborough Yorkshire England
OCCUPATION: Milk vendor
Does this apply to John or brother Thomas. John was known to have lived in Yorkshire.
Name: Dale, Thomas John
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: June
Year: 1902
District: Guisborough
County: North Riding of Yorkshire
Volume: 9d
Page: 877
John Doyle was born in 1861 and his first recorded child to Emily Ricket was born 1903. He was about 42 at the time of this marriage and may have been married previously. He changed his surname to Dale probably at marriage. His forebears originated from Ireland emigrating to Ayr, in Ayrshire Scotland then moved to Bute and finally back to Ayr. John was the father of Girtrude Dale - my father's 1st cousin through his mother Margaret Doyle(sister to John Doyle/Dale). Therefor she was my 1st cousin once removed - on the Gregg blood line. Because Girtrude Dale married my mother's brother James Perry, she also became my Aunt through marriage. Gertrude's children became my 1st cousins through their father - James Perry's bloodline[ADG1997].
Emily Rosina RICKETTS
Alias Emily Rosina DALE[DOYLE] (EST 1902)
Alias Emily Rosina DOYLE[DALE] (EST 1902)
Born ABT 1879, England/Ireland(Possible)
Died 18 Mar 1919, Mexborough Yorkshire England
These records found but not confirmed:
________________________
Name: Ricketts, Rosina Emily
Record Type: Births
Quarter: March
Year: 1889
District: Chippenham
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 66
_________________________
Name: RICKETTS, Emily Rosin_
Record Type: Deaths
Age at death: 0
Quarter: June
Year: 1877
District: Pancras
County: London Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 107
Born 18 Aug 1862, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C115541
OCCUPATION: died infant
Born 22 May 1864, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C115541
Died Doncaster England
Samuel Doyle married Lavina Jenkins[1872-1968] Their children:
1) Smauel John married Nancy [?]. Their children Hadyn & Philip John
2) May Dale[b.1897] who married Jim Parker and had 3 daughters named Margaret who married Mr Kerr, Marjorie who married Mr Brunwin, Gwynnedd who married Mr Merrifield
3) Kate Dale[1908-1933].
4) Constance Helena Dale[b.1906] of St. Athan, near Barry, South Wales who married William Edward Kemp [1901-1978] who had children:
a)Gareth Hilton Kemp[1932-1947].
b) Edward Spencer Kemp[b.1935 who married Sandra Gail Thomas[b.1942-2004] and had son Robert Mark Kemp.[b.1963].
c)Constance Joy Kemp[b.1936-1985] who married Sidney James Steadman[b.1933] and had a daughter Andrea Kemp Steadman[b.1964] married Stephen Ogleby and became Andrea Kemp Ogleby in 1995.
d)Robert Adrian Dale Kemp[b.1944] who married Margaret Eirwen Williams[b.1943].
5) Clarice[b.1911] who married William Frederick Reed[b.1912] and had children a) Malcomb John[b.1935] and b)Colin Vernon Denis[b.1937] who married Jenifer Ann Thomas[b.1945] who's children Joanne Elizabeth[b.1974] and Suzanne Mary[b.1978]
6) Lorna[b.1914] who married Edward Howell[1911-1987] and who's children were Hilary Ann Denise[1938-1939], Jacqueline Marjorie Carol[b.1944] who married Eric Grenville Harlett and had Edward Andrew[b.1964], Lavina Ann[b.1965] and Peter Charles[b.1970].
[Corrections supplied by courtesy of Andrea Kemp Ogleby Llanelli, Carms. Jan 2005]
Born 24 Jul 1865, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C115541
Died BEF 1873, Died under 8 years of age
Born 10 Feb 1867, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C115541
Died 1951
She married Francis Stewart coal miner.[d.1915]
1891 Census at Coylton parish. 8 Craighall. Rooms 2.: Bk.7 P.2
Francis Stewart head married 28 coal miner Born Dalmellingtron Ayrs
Rachael Stewart wife married 24 Glenrossa Arran
Catherine " daughter 3 Coylton Ayrs
Francis son 1 Coylton Ayrs
1) Francis Stewart[b.1890] had a son and a daughter.
2) John Kirkland Stewart[??] married Margaret Rose McLauchlan who had;
a) Francis (Frank) Hood Stewart[??] who also had a son.
b) Daniel(Danny) McLauchlan Stewart[??].
3) Thomas Doyle Stewart[1881-1973] married Agnes White[1881-1960] who had:
a) Agnes Vance[b.1921] who married Robert Dickson Allen[b.1924] who's children Irene Stewart Allan[b.1949] married Robert Foster] who had child Aimee, Robert Keith[1956-1962], Dorothy Ann[b.1960] who married David Allan Hood and had child Rory Hood.
b)Rachael Wilson Doyle Stewart[??]. married John Smillie Clark.
4) William Dale Stewart[b.1886] married Bessie Jemima Keith[1885-1957] who had:
a) Lorna[b.1921]
b) Brenda[b.1924] married Maxwell Gaskin[b.1921] who had Rosemary[b.1953] who married Christopher Martin[b.1953] and had Philip[b.1984],Harry[b.1986] and Timothy[b.1988], Hilary[b.1957] who married Jon Bate[b.1958], Richard[b.1960], Fiona Margaret[b.1962] who married Christopher John Butcher[b.1962].
5) James Stewart[?-1915]
6) Rachael Wilson Doyle Stewart[1903-1973] married John Smillie Ckark[?-1960] who had:
a) Ian Smillie Clark[b.1932] who married Rae Isla Innes[b.1933] who had Gordon Ian[b.1957] who married Julia E Jennings[b.1956] who had Hannah Louise Clark[b.1990].
7) Catherine Stewart[b.1888-1931] who married William McMath who had:
a) William McMath[1918-1984] who married Ida Margaret(Peggy) Lewis[b.1922] who had Felicity Lucy Margaret[b.1945] who married Ian Beckhurst[b.1948] and had Garry[b.1969] and Natasha[b.1974], Eric John McMath[b.1948] who married Carolyn Parker[b.1951] and had son Martin[b.1979], Kathline Stewart McMath[b.1951] married Leonard Horsman[b.1951] and had Darren Stewart[b.1972],Katrina Suzanne[b.1975] and Gayle[b.1981], Irene Lewis McMath[b.1951?] who married Claude John Stoneman[1951-1990] and had Joanne[b.1971] and Richard[b.1976], Evelyn Carol McMath[b.1952] who married Derick John Plummer[b.1951] and had Rebecca[b.1974], Julia[b.1978] and Dean John[b.1981], Beryl Ann McMath[b.1957] who married David Richard Moore[b.1954] who had Robert Andrew[b.1979], Chantelle Louise[b.82?], Kristy Anne[b.1982?] and Jamie William[b.1988], Linda Jane McMath[b.1963] who married Kevin John Avery[b.1963]
b) Frank McMath[??] who had William, Catherine and Margaret.
c) Alexander McMath[1928-1986] who married Evelyn Rae[b.1931] and had Stewart[b.1962] and Sandra[b.1968]
d) Jemima (Mima) McMath[?-1967] who married Basil Berks who had Jane who married Graham Johnston.
e) Rachael (Rita) McMath[1917-1968] who married Alexander Gibson[b.1907] who had John Ian who married Katherline Elizabeth Ponkerton[b.1945].
f) Agnes (Nan) McMath who married James Smith.
8) Helen Stewart[b.?] married Thomas Wilson who had son William.
Born 21 Sep 1868, Garden Square Kilwinning Ayrs IGI-C115991
Died 1921, Ayr Ayrs
SOURCE: Also Death Index
Name stated as Asey on IGI and birth cert.No. 238 Kilwinning. Also known as Esther.
ASEY DOYLE Birth: 21 SEP 1868 Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland Father: THOMAS DOYLE Mother: CATHERINE MCCUTCHEON C115991
Asey married James Ingram
Born 23 Apr 1870, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C115543
Died 15 Oct 1949, Skelmorlie Largs
SOURCE: IGI/Census
ISABELLA DOYLE Birth: 23 APR 1870 Kilmory, Bute, Scotland Father: THOMAS DOYLE Mother:
CATHERINE MCHUTCHEON C115543 . Izabella married William Hamilton[domestic carter].
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1891 Census Skelmorlie Largs: Brussels Cottage, Bath?? Road - 2 Rooms. Bk.1 P.25&26
William Hamilton Head Married 23 carter born Irvine Ayrs
Bella Hamilton wife " 21 carter's wife Buteshire Kilmory
Catherine Hamilton daughter 1
John McFerlane boarder Unmarried 55 gardener/Dom. servant
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Izabella and William had at least 3 children Kate[b.1890] and Rachael- possibly son Thomas[1903]-see grave site registration.
Designation of Purchaser for a burial plot at Largs.: IN LARGS PARISH COUNCIL CEMETERY
___________________________________________________________________________
Name and designation of Purchase: Mr William Hamilton, "Belltrees" Skelmorlie.
SECTION:Y LAIR No:40 SIZE OF LAIR: - PRICE OF LAIR: £6-6s-0d DATE OF PAYMENT:15.10.49
Date of burial in Lair Name of Persons Interred Age No in Burial Register
1949 October 15 Isabella Hamilton 81 7438
1956 November 19 William Hamilton 89 8357
1981 September 10 Thomas Hamilton 78 10959
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Assume Thomas is their son. b.Circa 1903
Catherine DOYLE {F} [P845] = Charles WHITING {M} [P1729] > Family [F179]
Married 21 Dec 1891, Newton Ayr Scotland - M.Cert
Catherine DOYLE
Alias Catherine WHITING
Born 3 Oct 1871, Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C115543
Died 1897
OCCUPATION: Died in Childbirth 1897
CATHERINE DOYLE Birth: 03 OCT 1871 Kilmory, Bute, Scotland Father: THOMAS DOYLE Mother: CATHERINE MCHUTCHEON C115543.
Charles WHITING
Born 28 Sep 1861, Cathcart Renfrew Scotland IGI-C115601
Died 4 Nov 1949, Ayr Ayrshire Sc.
OCCUPATION: Coachman/Groom
SOURCE: IGI/death Cert
Charles was located at Barony in 1881 Census Single and a groom
1881 Census Place: Dwelling: 54 Dorset St Barony, Lanark, Scotland. GRO Ref Volume 644-9 EnumDist 36 Page 6
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Charles MURRAY M 35 M Alyth, Perth, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Housepainter
Mary MURRAY M 30 F Kirriemuir, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Wife
Charles MURRAY 4 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son
Mary S. MURRAY 2 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
William MITCHELL U 24 M Alyth, Perth, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Fireman Steamship
CHARLES WHITING U 18 M Crossmyloof, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Lodger Occ: Groom Domestic Servant
Thomas WILSON U 30 M Bishopton, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Lodger Occ: Engine Fitter At Works
Charles described as a Retired Coachman (posting) on Death Cert. 1949 Aged 88 Widower of Catherine Doyle. Usual Residence - 11 The Hostel York Street Ayr. Informant Thomas Whiting brother of 35 McCullum Ave Rutherglen.
Born 15 May 1873, Clachaig Kilmory Bute Scotland IGI-C115543
SOURCE: IGI
Does this apply to Thomas or John. Brother John was known to have lived in Yorkshire.
Name: Dale, Thomas John
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: June
Year: 1902
District: Guisborough
County: North Riding of Yorkshire
Volume: 9d
Page: 877
Thomas musthave gone to Scotland from Ireland before his parents because they were still living in Ireland in 1857
Marriage IGI Thomas and Catherine 9 Dec 1855 St Quivox And Newton Ayr IGI M116129
Thomas & Catherine were both born in Ireland. By 1855, the year they were married, they were living in Ayr. James and Margaret were born in St Quivox area but by the time of Thomas' birth in 1861 they were living in Kilmory Arran in Buteshire. They appear to have remained in Kilmory at least until 1874 when Isobella was born, and then by 1881 were back in St Quivox Ayr.
1861 census at Kilmory - Bennicarigan Farm. Rooms 2:
Thomas Doyle head married 22 Agricultural Labourer born Ireland
Catherine wife " 24 Ireland
James son 4 St Quivox
* MARGARET daughter 1 St Quivox
John son 1 mth Kilmory
1871 census Kilmory - Torrylin Farm. Rooms 2:
Thomas Doyle head married 34 Agric. labourer Ireland
Catherine wife " 30 Ireland
*MARGARET daughter 11 Ayrs
John son 9 Kilmory
Samuel son 5 Kilmory
Rachael daughter 4 Kilmory
Esther daughter 2 Kilwinning
Isabella daughter 11 mth Kilmory
Note: Son James was working away as a servant aged 14 at Ballymenoch Farm Kilmory where he was entered on the census for the McNicol family.
1881 Census Place: Dwelling: 28 Garden St. St Quivox, Ayr, Scotland. GRO Ref Volume 578 EnumDist 20 Page 29
Thomas Doyle head married 44 Gen lab. Ireland
Catherine wife " 45 Gen Lab Ireland
James son unmaried 24 Gen lab Ayr Ayrs
Easter? (Esther) dau unmarried 12 Bute Arran
Isabella dau 9 Scholar Bute Arran
Catherine dau 7 Scholar Bute Arran
1891 59 Allison Street Newton-on-Ayr
Catherine Doyle wife married 56 Ireland
[Note Thomas not recorded at home in 1891. He died in Ayr in 1902 in the poorhouse and destitute. Did Cath 'pit him oot' ? Catherine died in 1895 aged 62].
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