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Family [F194]

GREG

Parents

James GREG {M} [P432] = Elizabeth KIRKWOOD {F} [P594]

Married 10 Jun 1707, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI M11963-1

James GREG

Born EST 1680, Ayr, or Coylton, Ayrshire, Scotland
Died 29 Jul 1737, Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland
OCCUPATION: Tailor/Deacon/Conven
SOURCE: OPR's of marriige&church
In all parish records James Greg's trade is spelled 'taylor' for present day tailor.

James estimated age 27 married Elizabeth Kirkwood in 1707, aged 42 married Jane Guthrie in 1722, and finally aged 53 marrying Elizabeth Rogerson in 1733.

James Gregg
Birth: 1682 - Ayr Ayrshire, Scotland
Death: 1737 - Ayr Ayrshire
Father: James Gregg
Wife: Jane Gregg (born Guthrie)
Wife: Elizabeth Gregg (born Rodgerson)
Wife: Elizabeth Gregg (born Kirkwood)
Children: Mary Meikle (born Gregg), James Gregg, David Gregg, William Gregg, Janet Gregg, James Gregg, Jane Gregg, Margaret Galbraith (born Gregg), Elizabeth Gregg, Isobel Gregg, Alexander Gregg, James Gregg, Anna Gregg


James died before 1740 (See Probate 29 Jul 1737) when Elizabeth Rogerson married John Meikle[IGI]. Her step-daughter Mary Greg previously married John Meikle in 1731.(did he, perhaps as a widower to Mary Greg, also marry his widowed mother-in-law??)

Note: The name MEIKLE appears again in 1730 as James Meikle(also' late deacon to the taylors'), being witness to the baptism of Anna Greg(daughter to James Greg and Jane Guthrie).1 boy
James produced 4 boys and 2 girls in his marriage with Elizabeth Kirkwood, and 5 girls and 1 boy in his marriage to Jane Guthrie. He would have been 51 by the time he married Elizabeth Rogerson and assuming his date of birth to be correct died probably aged 53.(Unless there were earlier marriages and the estimated d.o.b is incorrect.

PROBATE RECORD
Ayrshire, Scotland, Parish and Probate Records, 1269-1975
Collection:Ayr, Lanark, & Stirling: - The commissariot record of
Glasgow Register of testamenis, 1547-180
Name: Greig James
Dates: 29 Jul 1737
Place: Burgh Ayr, Ayr, Scotland
Book: Marriages (Marriage)
Vol: The Commissariot Record of Glasgow
Chapt: Register of Testaments, 1547-1800
Text: Greig James, late Deacon Convener of the Burgh of Ayr
29 Jul 1737

Elizabeth KIRKWOOD

Alias Jane GREG (10 Jun 1707)
Born 23 May 1680, Ochiltree Ayrs Scotland - IGI-C11609-2
Died ABT 1720, Ayrshire, Scotland
IGI - Elizabith Kirkwood baptism: 23 May 1680, OCHILTREE, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: David Kirkwood: C11609-2: Scotland-ODM

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Name: Elizabith Kirkwood. Gender: Female. Baptism Date: 23 May 1680. Baptism Place: , Ochiltree, Ayr, Scotland. Father: David Kirkwood. FHL Film Number: 1041401. Reference ID: 2:16H2XRT

Death: Between 1718-1722 - Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland. Elizabeth Kirkwood had her last child James with husband James Greg in 1718,. Her husband later married Jane Guthrie on 6 Mar 1722 , and it can be assumed Elizabeth died between 1718 and 1722.

Children

Mary GREG {F} [P598] = John MEIKLE {M} [P601] > Family [F200]

Married 19 Apr 1731, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI-M119631-1/OPR

Mary GREG

Alias Mary MEIKLE (12 Dec 1731)
Born 14 Apr 1708, Ayr Ayrs Scotland
Christened 25 Apr 1708
Died 23 Mar 1740, Ayr Ayrshire Scotland
OPR AYR: 'Mary lawful daughter to James Greg taylor in this parish and Elizabeth Kirkwood his spouse. Born 14 April 1708'.

Mary Greg lawful daughter to James Gregg, Taylor in Air & Elizabeth Kirkwood his wife was born on Wednesday the 14th April 1708, baptised on sabbath the 25th of that month by Mr Allen? Orr, Minister at the Stober? Willows?, witnesses James Gregg, Taylor in Ochiltree - grandfather to the child & Robert Loftus? Mercht in Air'

Mary had her last child in Mar 1740, and may have died at childbirth, and it can be assumed that she died before 24 Apr 1740 when her husband John Meikle married Elizabeth Rodgerson.

John MEIKLE

Born 1695, Ayrshire Scotland
Died Ayrshir Scotland
OCCUPATION: Baker in Ayr


John Meikle appears to have married thrice
1. Name: Mary Dunlop
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1729
Marriage Place: Ayr,Ayr,Scotland
Father: Adam Dunlop
Spouse: John Meikle
FHL Film Number: 1041331

1. Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910. John Meikle Marriage Date 28 Nov 1729. Marriage Place Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland. Spouse Mary Dunlop FHL Film Number1041331 Members. Mary Dunlop, Father Adam Dunlop, Spouse John Meikle

2. IGI Marriage: groom's name: John Meikle bride's name: Mary Greg marriage date: 19 Feb 1731 marriage place:Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland. bride's father's name: James Greg: M11963-1

3. IGI - John Mickle bride's name: Elizabeth Rodgerson Or Greg marriage date: 28 Apr 1740 marriage place: Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland.: M11963-1

James GREG {M} [P603]

Born Mar 1710, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI M11963-4
Christened Mar 1710, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI M11963-4
Died BEF 1718
OCCUPATION: Died as child
OPR AYR: 'James lawful son lawful to James Greg taylor of Air and Elizabeth Kirkwood his spouse. Born ? February, baptised ? March 1710'
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Note: this boy probably died aged under eight years old as a second James was born 1718.

David GREG {M} [P604]

Born 24 Jul 1712, Ayr Ayrs Scotland -OPR AYr
OPR AYR: 'David Greg lawful son to James Greg taylor in this parish and Elizabeth Kirkwood his spouse was born 24th July 1712 and baptised by Mr John Hunter. Witnesses David Hud baker and John Spiers taylor in Air'

William GREG {M} [P435]

Born 12 Oct 1714, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11578-5
Christened 21 Oct 1714, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11578-5
IGI - William Greg baptism 21 Oct 1714 , AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 12 Oct 1714 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Elizabeth Kirkwood : C11578-4 system origin: Scotland-VR

OPR AYR: 'William Greg son lawful to James Greg taylor in Air and Elizabeth Kirkwood his spouse was born Tuesday the 12th October 1714 and baptised Thursday 21 of that month by Mr John Hunter minister . . . .'

Janet GREG {F} [P923] = John PATERSON {M} [P320] > Family [F667]

Married 5 Nov 1734, Coylton Ayrs Scotland

Janet GREG

Alias Jonet PATERSON
Born 16 Aug 1716, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11578-5
Christened 26 Aug 1716, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11578-5
IGI- Jonet Greg Female baptism: 26 Aug 1716, AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 16 Aug 1716 father's name: James Greg mother's name: Elizabeth Kirkwood: C11578-4 : Scotland-VR. Also SCR FR747

OPR AYR Birth ' Jonet Greg daughter lawful to James Greg taylor in Air and and Elizabeth Kirkwood his spouse was born on Thursday 16th of August 1716 and baptised on Sabbat the 26th of that month by Mr John McDermit minister. Witnesses John Hutchison younger Mauchline and John Smith baker there'.

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950.
Jonet Greg Gender Female. Baptism Date 26 Aug 1716.. Baptism Place, Ayr, Ayshirer, Scotland. Father James Greg. Mother Elizabeth Kirkwood. FHL Film Number 1041329
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Marriage: 05 Nov 1734 - Coylton, Ayrshire, Scotland. Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910. Name John Paterson Gender Male. Marriage Date 5 Nov 1734. Marriage Place Coylton, Ayr, Scotland. Spouse Janet Gregg. FHL Film Number 1041336
John Paterson (1709–1798)

John PATERSON

Born 1709, Makiston, Ayrshire, Scotland
Died 1798

JAMES GREG {M} [P437] = JANET HENDERSON {F} [P438] > Family [F142]

Married ABT 1753, Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland

JAMES GREG

Born 28 Aug 1718, Ayrs, Ayrshire, Scotland IGI C11578-4
Christened 28 Aug 1718, Ayr Ayrshire Scotland IGI-C11578-7
Died 29 Jul 1817, .Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland
OCCUPATION: Master of Manners/Surveyor/Dance Ma
SOURCE: Old Parish Registers - Ayr

IGI - James Greg baptism, AYR, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 28 Aug 1718 : father's name: James Greg mother's name: Elizabeth Kirkwood: C11578-4 system origin: Scotland-VR
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950: Name: James Greg. Gender: Male Birth Date: 28 Aug 1718. Birth Place: , Ayr, Ayr, Scotland. Baptism Place: , Ayr, Ayr, Scotland. Father: James Greg. Mother: Elizabeth Kirkwood
FHL Film Number: 1041329 Reference ID: 2:16C8JCP

A Transcription from the original OPR 28 Aug 1718: 'James Greg son lawful to James Greg ... .... Deacon of the taylors of Air and Elizabeth Kirkwood his spouse, a son was born on Thursday the twenty eighth day of August seventeen hundred.and eighteen years, and was baptised that same day by Mr John McDermit. Witnesses were Mr John Moor master of ..... school of Air, and David Campbell late Deacon of the Taylors there'
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James is recorded as Land Surveyor/ Master of Manners and Dance Master in various documents. His son William is also described as a 'Dance Master'
OPR records for children's births are a further source for this James' existence
The Scottish Musical Museum: Consisting of Upwards of Six Hundred Songs, with Proper Basses for the Pianoforte, Volume 6. W. Blackwood and sons, 1839 - Ballads, Scots

MY LADY’S GOWN THERE'S GAIRS UPON'T.

This song was written for the Museum by Burns in 1788. The words are adapted to a well-known strathspey, or reel tune, composed by the late Mr James Gregg, an’ eminent teacher of dancing in Ayrshire. Gregg composed the strathspey, called “ Gregg‘s Pipes,” and many other excellent dancing tunes. He had a taste for painting, mechanics, and natural history; made and improved telescopes; he was also skilled in the mathematics, and was frequently employed as a land-surveyor. He taught dancing, until, by old age, he could scarcely see his pupils, or hear the tones of his own violin. He died, regretted by all who knew him, in November 1817, at a very advanced age. Johnson long hesitated to admit this song into his Museum; but, being blamed for such fastidiousness, he at length gave it a place in that work. '

The Gentleman's Magazine Volume XXXVIII - Part two - page 636 (1817) - Obituary
At Ayr at a very advanced age, Mr James Gregg, who for many years was well known in Ayrshire, Galloway and Dumfriesshire, as an eminent teacher of dancing, he was a man of happy temper, and of considerable originality of genius.
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Thanks to William Douglas Morrison (Doug) of NSW Australia for the following information:
The Gentleman's Magazine -: The Gentleman's Magazine Vol LXXXVII Part II p.636 (1817)

Obituary of James gregg:
" At Ayr, at a very advanced age, Mr. James Gregg, who for many years was well known in Ayrshire, Galloway, and Dumfriesshire, as an eminent teacher of dancing. He was a man of happy temper, and of considerable originality of genius. He was remarkably skilled in musick,(sic) and performed with great taste and execution on the violin; and besides "Gregg's Pipes" and "Strathspeys", which bear his name, he composed many other excellent pieces, which, his modesty prevented him from acknowledging, though he contributed to many musical publications. He had a taste for Painting, Mechanics, and Natural History, made and improved telescopes, and no inconsiderable knowledge of Mathematicks, and was frequently employed as a measurer of land, until his advanced years rendered him incapable of bearing the fatigue. He taught dancing until, by old age, he could scarcely see his own pupils, or hear the tones of his own violin."
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Proving the fact that James Gregg wrote music for the famous Bard Robert Burns: POEMS AND SONGS.

G3 My lady's dink, my lady's drest, The flower and fancy o' the west ; But the lassie that a man lo'es best, that 's the lass to mak him blest. My lady's gown, &c.

[This is a production of the same class with that immediately preceding, executed with even more felicity. It paints too true a picture of aristocratic life as it prevailed in the days of Burns, and which perhaps too often found imitation in a lower scale of society. It was furnished to Johnson at an early date in the progress of his undertaking, and Stenhouse accounts for the late publication of it by telling us that "Johnson long hesitated to admit the song into his work ; but being blamed for such fastidiousness, he at length gave it a place there.

"The air is a very lively strathspey by James Gregg, a distinguished performer and composer in Ayrshire, who died at an advanced age in 1817.

As it is not much known, we have pleasure in subjoining the melody.]

Chorus. Strathspey by James Gregg.

BOOK: The Works of Robert Burns - With His Life Vol 2 Page 451 Is the same wording as The Works of Robert Burns - Complete In One Volume. With Selected Notes: Page 248

BOOK: The Works of Robert Burns - Complete In One Volume. With Selected Notes: Page 248 My Ladies Gown - Theres Gairs Up Front. To the tune of " Greggs Pipes"

[The idea of this song is believed to be old, and some of the words also; most of it, however, is the workmansship of Burns.

The air to which it was writen was the composition of James Gregg, a musician belonging to Ayrshire. whos memory still

lives in the west as an improver of the telescope, a mechanist and a painter. He is still more remembered by this tune

which is often called for, when the dancers are on the floor --- "and all goes merry as a mariage bell" ]

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Scottish_Song/My_Lady%27s_Gown

BOOK: EXCERPT: From' The Book of Scottish Song (1843) edited by Alexander Whitelaw' - My Lady's Gown.

[This song was written by Burns in 1788 for Johnson's Museum, but it does not appear in that work till near the close. It is supposed that Burns was indebted for the idea and some of the words of the song to an old licentious ditty. The tune to which the song is sung is a popular strathspey or reel tune, composed by James Gregg, a teacher of dancing in Ayrshire. Gregg was a very ingenious man, and distinguished in particular for his skill in mechanics. He died in 1817.]

My lady's gown there's gairs upon't,
And gowden springs sae rare upon't;
But Jennie's jimps and jerkinet,
My lord thinks meikle mair upon't.

My lord a-hunting he is gane;
But hounds and hawks wi' him are nane;
By Colin's cottage lies his game,
If Colin's Jennie be at hame.

My lady's white, my lady's red,
And kith and kin o' Cassilis' blude;
But her ten-pund lands o' tocher gude
Were a' the charms his lordship lo'ed.

Out ower yon muir, out ower yon moss,
Where gor-cocks throush the heather pass,
There wons auld Colin's bonnie lass,
A lily in a wilderness.

Sae sweetly move her genty limbs,
Like music-notes o' lovers' hymns;
The diamond-dew in her een sae blue,
Where laughing love sae wanton swims.

My lady's dink, my lady's dress'd,
The flower and fancy o' the west;
But the lassie thrtt a man lo'es best,
O, that's the lass to mak' him blest.

Source: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Scottish_Song/My_Lady%27s_Gown
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JANET HENDERSON

Alias Janet GREG (EST 1752)
Born 12 Jan 1731, Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland
Died 19 Jan 1814, .Louisville, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Scotland
Janet Henderson's existance is further verified from her Childrens OPR's

ALTERNATIVE POSSIBILITY BIRTH: Janet HENDERSON Sex: F Birth: 5 Nov 1732 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland Parents: Father: John HENDERSON Mother: Beatrix CADDELL Film Number: 177912 Page Number: 1096 Reference Number:42328 )

ALTERNATIVE POSSIBILITY BIRTH: Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Janet Henderson. Gender: Female. Birth Date: 4 Jul 1732. Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1732. Baptism Place:, Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland. Father: James Henderson. Mother: Agnes Stinson. FHL Film Number: 1041088. Reference ID: 2:17DF20V

OPR DEATH: 19 January 1814 - Louisville, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland at an advanced age, at her son's house, Louiseville, Kilmarnock, on 19th inst. Mrs Janet Henderson, wife of Mr James Gregg, senior, late of Ayr

Family

IGI - Marriage: James Greg bride's name: Elizabeth Kirkwood 10 Jun 1707 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland groom's father's name: James Greg M11963-1 Scotland-ODM
OPR AYR: 'James Greg and Elizabeth Kirkwood in this parish booked in order to marry 23 May 1707 and married 10th June 1707'.
OPR AYR: 'This which day James Greg son of James Greg in Air and Elizabeth Kirkwood both gave in their names to be proclaimed in order to marriage 23 May 1707 and married 10th June 1707'.

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: James Greg. Gender: Male. Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1707 Marriage Place: Ayr,Ayr,Scotland. Father: James Greg. Spouse: Elizabeth Kirkwood. FHL Film Number:1041331
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