Family [F513]

PERRY

Parents

SAMUEL? PERRY {M} [P1813] = Elizabeth POULTNEY {F} [P1814]

Married ABT 1828, Worcester Eng.?

SAMUEL? PERRY

Born ABT 1800, Worcester Engl or Edinburgh Sc. ?
Died BEF 1863
OCCUPATION: Butcher
SOURCE: Son Charles marriage cert.1863
Named on Son Charles wedding Certificate 1863 & described as a butcher. Samuel's wife is Elizabeth Poutlney[sic]. 'Samuel' appears to be 'Sam Melville Perry' but the copy is unclear.

??? Name: PERRY, Samuel. Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 1 Quarter: June Year: 1878 District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 17
??? Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 38 Quarter: September Year: 1881 District: Stourbridge County: Shropshire Staffordshire Warwickshire West Midlands Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 69

Possible IGI Record for SAMUEL PERRY Christening: 10 JUL 1803 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England. Father: JOHN PERRY Mother: SARAH C040142
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TO BE CHECKED-Deaths Mar 1855. PARRY Samuel Worcester 6c _24
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Possible son: SAMUEL PERRY Birth: 16 DEC 1826 Christening: 08 DEC 1828 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C041797
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Poss record: IGI Entry: Samuel Perry Birth: 1810 Of Cannongate,Edin, Scotland Death: 1880 -( but contradicted as this Samuel by son Charles marriage cert which states both parents deceased in 1863)
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POSSIBLE: Samuel Perry Birth: About 1812 Of, Old Swinford, Worcester, England Spouse: Mrs. Elizabeth Perry IGI-No info
Samuel Perry Christening: 22 OCT 1815 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: James Perry Mother: Jane Perry IGI-No info
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CONNECTIONS:?
SAM PARRY Christening: 08 MAY 1803 Wellington, Shropshire, England Father: SAM PARRY Mother: ELIZ C037521
Name: Perry, James Melville Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1852 District: Stourbridge County: Shropshire Staffordshire Warwickshire West Midlands Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 170

Elizabeth POULTNEY

Alias Elizabeth PERRY
Born ABT 1800, Worcester or Warwick?
Died BEF 1863
SOURCE: Son's Marriage Cert
The name 'Poultney' appears to be most common in Warwick, Worcester, Leicester, Stafford areas of England at this period 1800 - 1850. A few named Poultney in London area around 1800.
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Possible IGI Record ELIZABETH POULTNEY Birth: 21 MAR 1811 Christening: 21 APR 1811 Polesworth, Warwick, England Father: WILLIAM POULTNEY Mother: SARAH P017221
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On son Charles' marriage certificate 1863 his mother is named as Elizabeth 'Poutlney'[sic] DECEASED
NOTES TO BE CHECKED-Deaths Dec 1852 - Perry Elizabeth West Bromwich 6b 374.
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CONNECTION: ? RELATED? Elizabeth Perkes Poultney Birth: 13 JAN 1820 Dudley, Worcester, England Death: 13 JAN 1888 Parents:Father: Henry Perkes Mother: Elizabeth Cartwright Aston Perkes

Children

Elizabeth PERRY {F} [P1410]

Born 1829, Worcester, Worcester Eng.
SOURCE: census 1881
Prob daughter Elizabeth Perry(Griffiths) [d.o.b ABT1829] to Samuel Perry & Elizabeth Poultney. Married name Griffiths? Re 1881 Census Warwick
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1881 CENSUS. Household: 101 Moseley Road Aston, Warwick, England - Public Records Office Reference  RG1. Piece / Folio  3014 / 9. Page Number  12
 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplac Occupation d.o.b
 Elizabeth GRIFFITHS  Head   W  Female   52  * WORCESTER, Worcester, England. Owner Of Property   b.1829
 Charlotte A.F?. PERRY  Niece    Female    9  Edinburgh, Scotland  b.1872
( Charlotte - Prob daughter to brother Charles and who was missing on Charles 1881 census at Birmingham)
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Are these CONNECTED? ELIZABETH GRIFFIS Marriages: JOHN PARRY 18 MAY 1831 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England M010723
ELIZA PARRY Birth: 08 MAY 1831 Christening: 29 MAY 1831 Clifton On Teme, Worcester, England Mother: ELIZA PARRY C040101

CHARLES PERRY {M} [P1064] = CHARLOTTE McKINZIE DUNDAS {F} [P1065] > Family [F317]

Married 16 Jul 1863, Cannongate Edinburgh Parish Midlothian Scotland IGI-M11685-1

CHARLES PERRY

Born 1832, Worcester Worcestershire Eng.
OCCUPATION: Fleshers Journeyman/Oyster Merchnt
SOURCE: MarriageCert/1881Census Eng
Further Possibilities to SAMUEL & ELIZABETH:
HARRIET PERRY Christening: 16 SEP 1838 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C040274
WILLIAM HENRY PERRY Christening: 21 NOV 1844 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C040275
ANNA PERRY Christening: 30 DEC 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C040275
SARAH JANE PERRY Christening: 23 MAY 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZA C040275
John Henry Perry Christening: 03 JUL 1842 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: Samuel Perry Mother: Mrs. Eliza Perry C040275

ONLY record found in Worcester Eng. of a Charles Perry = CHARLES PERRY Christening: 14 OCT 1832 Kempsey, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ANN C043891

OTHER POSS relatives to Charles indicate:
SAMUEL PARRY Christening: 30 APR 1820 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PARRY Mother: ANN P020913
RICHARD PARRY OR SPARRY Christening: 31 MAR 1822 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PARRY OR SPARRY Mother: ANN P020913
JOSEPH PARRY Christening: 08 FEB 1826 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PARRY Mother: ANN P020914
SAMUEL PERRY Christening: 12 DEC 1826 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ANN C040274
SUSANNA PARRY Christening: 31 MAY 1829 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PARRY Mother: ANN P020914
JAMES PARRY Christening: 21 OCT 1832 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PARRY Mother: ANN P020914

Marriage cert gives age of Charles as 31(Blurred) Charlotte as 26.
Charles is recorded as a Fleshers Journeyman at his marriage. A Flesher was a butcher. A journeyman was one who served his apprenticeship in a trade and worked as a fully qualified employee. The term originated in the medieval trade guild regulations; it derives from the French journee ("a day") because journeymen were paid daily. Each guild normally recognized three grades of worker - apprentices, journeymen, and masters. As a qualified tradesman, a journeyman might have become a master with his own business but most remained employees.

Charles was described as a packer in 1881 Census at Birmingham Warwick Eng. Place of birth as Worcester

CHARLOTTE McKINZIE DUNDAS

Alias CHARLOTTE PERRY (16 Jul 1863)
Born 5 May 1837, Dunfirmline Fife Scotland IGI-C11950-5
OCCUPATION: House Keeper(Marriage Cert)
SOURCE: Marriage cert. details
IGI - Charlotte Mckinzie Dundas Birth Date: 05 May 1837 DUNFERMLINE, FIFE, SCOTLAND Father's Name: Alexander Dundas Mother's Name: Janet Duncan : C11950-5 Scotland-ODM
Charlotte described as a "House Keeper" on her Marriage Cert.
Parents: DUNDAS ALEXANDER - JANET DUNCAN/FR4708 M DUNFERMLINE.

Family

THIS FAMILY APPEARS TO HAVE LINKS WITH EDINBURGH, WORCESTER and WARWICK.

Son Charles (d.o.b 1832) recorded as born in * WORCESTER Eng. on 1881 Census at Birmingham.
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POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL CHILDREN:
ELIZA PERRY Birth: 14 AUG 1823 Christening: 26 SEP 1823 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C041797
The following 2 persons baptised on same day, place and same parents
ELIZABETH PERRY Birth: 08 JAN 1824 Christening: 08 DEC 1828 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C041797
SAMUEL PERRY Birth: 16 DEC 1826 Christening: 08 DEC 1828 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C041797
JOHN PERRY Birth: 05 NOV 1828 Christening: 08 DEC 1828 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C041797
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POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS WORCESTER:
ELIZA PERRY Birth: 14 AUG 1823 Christening: 26 SEP 1823 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C041797
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: September Year: 1838 District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 19[08]
HARRIET PERRY Christening: 16 SEP 1838 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C040274
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: March Year: 1839 District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 220
Name: PERRY, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: March Year: 1840 District: Kidderminster County: Hereford and Worcester Shropshire Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 301
ANNA PERRY Christening: 30 DEC 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C040275
SARAH JANE PERRY Christening: 23 MAY 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZA C040275
John Henry Perry Christening: 03 JUL 1842 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: Samuel Perry Mother: Mrs. Eliza Perry C040275
WILLIAM HENRY PERRY Christening: 21 NOV 1844 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C040275
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Name: PERRY, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: December Year: 1845 District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 216
Name: PERRY, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: March Year: 1850 District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 270
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 1 Quarter: March Year: 1867 District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 4
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 28 Quarter: June Year: 1877 District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 70
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POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS WARWICK:
SAMUEL PERRY Birth: 16 DEC 1826 Christening: 08 DEC 1828 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Father: SAMUEL PERRY Mother: ELIZABETH C041797
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: December Year: 1837 District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 16 Page: 169
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: September Year: 1855 District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 1
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: December Year: 1858 District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 1_5
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 68 Quarter: September Year: 1867 District: Kings Norton County: Staffordshire Warwickshire Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 213
Name: PERRY, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 2 Quarter: December Year: 1876 District: Aston County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 176
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 58 Quarter: September Year: 1876 District: Aston County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 193
Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 30 Quarter: September Year: 1876 District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 80
Name: PERRY, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 64 Quarter: June Year: 1884 District: Aston County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 189
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Name: Perry, Samuel Record Type: Deaths Quarter: December Year: 1852 District: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 30
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POSSIBLE WARWICK 1881CENSUS RELATED PERSONS:
Poss a son named Samuel Perry (d.o.b 1848) :All names appear within the wider family.
1881 CENSUS . Household: 1 Back 27 Chester St. Birmingham, Warwick, England
 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation d.o.b
 Samuel P. PERRY   Head   M   Male   33   Birmm, Warwick, England   Brush Maker  1848 P='Poultney'?
 Elizabeth PERRY   Wife   M   Female   32   Birmm, Warwick, England        1849
 James PERRY   Son   U   Male   9   Birmm, Warwick, England   Scholar     1872
 Thomas E. PERRY   Son   U   Male   7   Birmm, Warwick, England   Scholar     1874
 William G. PERRY   Son   U   Male   3   Birmm, Warwick, England        1878
 Charlotte PERRY   Daur   U   Female   9 m   Birmm, Warwick, England        1880
Public Records Office Reference  RG1. Piece / Folio   2966 / 99. Page Number  11
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POSSIBLE DURHAM 1881CENSUS RELATED PERSONS:
Poss a son named Thomas Perry (d.o.b 1847). Most names appear within the wider family.
1881 Census Durham: 1 & 2 Clayton St. Census Place Hart, Durham, England
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation d.o.b
 Thomas PERRY   Head   M   Male   34   Edinburgh Leith   Shipbuilder    1847
 Jane PERRY   Wife   M   Female  34   Glasgow   Shipbuilder Wife    1847
 Samuel PERRY   Son      Male   14   Lynemouth   Shipbuilder Son    1867
 Thomas PERRY   Son      Male   10   Tynemouth   Shipbuilder Son    1871
 Caroline PERRY   Daur      Female  8   South Shields   Shipbuilder Daughter 1873
 Margret PERRY   Daur      Female  5   Middlesbro,York, Shipbuilder Daughter 1876
 Lough PERRY   Son      Male   4   West Hartlepool  Shipbuilder Son   1877
 Robert PERRY   Son      Male   1   Throston   Shipbuilder Son 1880
Public Records Office Reference  RG1. Piece / Folio   4906 / 24. Page Number  42