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Family [F2]

GREIG

Parents

Thomas GREIG {M} [P2] = Marion CALDWELL {F} [P3]

Married 12 Jun 1835, Dalmellington Ayrs Scotland IGI-M11586-4

Thomas GREIG

Born 16 Nov 1810, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11578-9
Christened 17 Nov 1810, Ayr Ayrs Scotland IGI - C11578-9
Died 12 Apr 1870, Barr Ayrs GROS 580/00/0006
OCCUPATION: Shepherd/Agr Labourer
SOURCE: IGI/OPR
IGI - name: Thomas Greig gender: Male baptism/christening date: 17 Nov 1810 baptism/christening place: AYR,AYR,SCOTLAND birth date: 16 Nov 1810 father's name: Alexander Greig mother's name: Margaret Stevenson indexing project (batch) number: C11578-9 system origin: Scotland-ODM

IGI-C115798 at Ayr Ayrs, OPR at Dalmellingon-
Thomas is connected to Dalmellington Greggs.
OPR DALMELLINGTON: 'Thomas Greig lawful son to Alexander Greig clerk to the ........ and Margaret Stevenson his spouse born on 16th November 1810 baptised 17th by Mr Robert Auld'.

IGI - name: Thomas Greig gender: Male baptism/christening date: 17 Nov 1810 baptism/christening place: AYR,AYR,SCOTLAND birth date: 16 Nov 1810 father's name: Alexander Greig mother's name: Margaret Stevenson indexing project (batch) number: C11578-9 system origin: Scotland-ODM

Ref 1 Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
1870 Statutory Death ex Scotlands People 580/00 0006 Barr.
Thomas Greig (Pauper) Widower of Marion Caldwell; 1870 April Twentieth 2h 0m AM at Barr Village; M; 59 yrs, Parents Alexander Greig (decd) & Margaret Greig MS Stevenson (decd); Cause Unknown; Informant Grace Greig (Doter) Present
Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
THOMAS GREGG b 16 Nov 1810 Ayr, Ayrshire. (Birth place confirmed by Censi) Lived most of his married life in Barr. Agricultural Labourer. Died a pauper on 20 Apr 1870 Barr Village, Ayrshire- registered by daughter Grace Gregg (Ref 1)

Marion CALDWELL

Alias Marion GREIG (12 Jun 1835)
Born EST 1811, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-2
Died 20 Apr 1866, Barr Ayrs GROS 580/00 0005
Marions Parents: IGI DAVID CALDWELL Married MARGRAT MAITLAND 29 JUL 1810 Barr By Girvan, Ayr, Scotland M11580-2

Followinjg info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
Ref 3 1866 Statutory Death ex Scotlands People 580/00 0005 Barr
DEATH: Marion Gregg Married to Thomas Gregg (Pauper); 1866 April Twentieth 6h 0m AM at Barr Village; F; 57 yrs; Parents David Caldwell Grocer (decd) & Margaret Caldwell MS Maitland; Cause Valvular Disease of Heart; Informant Thomas Gregg Husband Present.

MARION CALDWELL born c.1810 Barr, Ayrshire (Birth place confirmed by Censi) Lived all of her life in Barr except for a short period in Dalmellington where three of her siblings were born. Died 20 Apr 1866 Barr Village (Ref 3)

Children

Margaret GREGG {F} [P1917] = Robert GILMOUR {M} [P777] > Family [F255]

Married 14 Sep 1854, Straiton Ayrs Scotland IGI-M11617-5

Margaret GREGG

Alias Margaret GILMOUR (14 Sep 1854)
Born ABT 1836
Died 1 Jun 1884, 54 York St. Lane, Newton Ayr, Ayrs. Sc.
Ref 5 Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
MARGARET GREGG bc 1836 Child appears in 1841 census (& never again )without daughter confirmation but as both grandmothers were Margaret. This is most likely to be a daughter. Unfortunately some daughters in this family went out to service about the age of 10yrs. She may have died early or married from Service.
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Email 22 Jan 2017 Jim Cameron
Hi, I think the Margaret Gregg on your website, b. to Thomas Gregg and Marion Caldwell abt 1836 and who disappears after 1841 census, is my great great grandmother.
This person married Robert Gilmour in 1854 (b. Ireland) and had a family including my great grandfather, John Gilmour. She died aged 48 in 1884 in Newton-on-Ayr.
John Gilmour married Annie Clement in 1875, in Patna, and their daughter Mary, b 1898, married George Cameron in 1922.
My father, also George, was born in 1925, in Prestwick. I have been interested seeing your extensive information. Kind regards, Jim Cameron
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Email May 24 2018: Hi, I think I have found Margaret Gregg on the 1851 census. There is a Margaret Greg (sic) as a house maid at Aldinna Farm in Barr. It has her age as 17. The Head of household is Robert Rogerson aged 37, a shepherd.
I assume this Margaret is my GG Grandmother, who married Robert Gilmour. Hope this is of interest. Jim Cameron
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Robert GILMOUR

Born ABT 1832, Ireland

Marion McGarvie GREGG {F} [P4]

Born 10 Apr 1837, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
Christened 4 May 1837, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
SOURCE: IGI
IGI - name: Marion Mcgarvie Gregg gender: Female baptism/christening date: 04 May 1837 baptism/christening place: BARR BY GIRVAN,AYR,SCOTLAND birth date: 10 Apr 1837 father's name: Thomas Gregg mother's name: Marion Caldwell indexing project (batch) number: C11580-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM

Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008: MARION McGARVIE GREGG b 10 Apr 1837 Barr, Ayrshire (GROS 580/0020/0036). Named for her Great Aunt Marion McGarva. MS Caldwell.By 1861 she was with her Uncle Maitland Caldwell's family in Newton-on-Ayr, Ayrshire.

Jane GREIG {F} [P5] = Father to David Gregg [P722] UNIDENTIFIED {M} [P1808] > Family [F235]

Married Unmarried

Jane GREIG

Alias Jane UNKNOWN
Alias Jane UNRECORDED
Alias Jane UNIDENTIFIED
Born 17 Dec 1838, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
Christened 7 Jan 1839, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
IGI - Jane Gregg baptism date: 07 Jan 1839 BARR BY GIRVAN, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 17 Dec 1838. father's name: Thomas Gregg mother's name: Marion Caldwell C11580-4

ODM

Next Source Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
JANE GREGG b 17 Dec 1838 Barr, Ayrshire (GROS 580/0020/0042) Muslin Sewer (Ref 4). You're probably right about the first illegitimate child. but I haven't found anything.

Father to David Gregg [P722] UNIDENTIFIED

Possibly father to both David Greig [P722] and Jane Greig [P1788]

Barbara GREGG {F} [P6]

Born 10 May 1841, Barrr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
Christened 23 May 1841, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
Died 2 Dec 1916, High Boreland Kirkcudbright Sc.
IGI - name: Barbra Gregg baptism: 23 May 1841 baptism BARR BY GIRVAN, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 10 May 1841 father's name: Thomas Gregg mother's name: Marion Caldwell: C11580-4 Scotland - ODM
SCR Barbra GREGG (F)...................... C: 23 May 1841 Father: Thomas GREGG Mother: Marion CALDWELL Barr By Girvan, Ayr, Scotland

Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
Ref 8 1867 Statutory Marriage ex Scotlands People 697/00/0004 Penicuik, Midlothian
1867 On the Sixteenth day of January at Easter Borelaw Penicuik After Banns according to the United Presbyterian Church; William Goodwin Dairyman (Widower) 36 yrs; Barbara Greig Dairymaid (Spinster) 25 yrs; Both of Easter Borelaw, Pennicuik; Parents Thomas Goodwin Shepherd & Mary Goodwin MS Gerrand (Deceased); Parents Thomas Greig Agricultural Labourer & Marion Greig MS Caldwell (Deceased) (Both fathers alive)

Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
BARBARA GREGG b 10 May 1841 Barr, Ayrshire (GROS 580/0020/0048)
Married William Anderson Goodwin on 16 Jan 1867 in Penicuik, Midlothian (Ref 8) and died 2 Dec 1916 at High Boreland, Kirkcudbright (Ref 9)

Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
Ref 9 1916 Statutory Death ex Scotlands People 871/00/0047 Kirkcudbright, Stewartry of Kirkcudbright.
Barbara Goodwin Widow of William Goodwin farmer ; 1916 December Second 2h PM High Boreland, Kirkcudbright; F; 75 yrs; Parents Thomas Greig (deceased) Marion Greig MS Caldwell (deceased); Cause Bronchitis; Informant James Goodwin Son Present

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CENSUS: Year 1851: Mary is found aged 9 as a Servant[ ! ] at the Ferguson Household in Barr Ayrshire
Piece: SCT1851/580 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Barr Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Barr. Folio: 0 Page: 7 Schedule: 16
Address: White Knows
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FERGUSSON David Head M M 32 Shepherd Ayrshire - Dalmellington
FERGUSSON Anne Wife M F 28 Kirkcudbrightshire - Minnigaff
FERGUSSON James Son - M 7 Ayrshire - Barr
FERGUSSON Robert Son - M 5 Ayrshire - Barr
FERGUSSON Agness Dau - F 3 Ayrshire - Barr
FERGUSSON John Son - M 1 Ayrshire - Barr
GREGG Barbra Servnt - F 9 House Servant Ayrshire - Barr ******
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Census Year 1861: BARR AYR GROS Data 580/00 002/00 005
Apx Dob Surname Forename Sex Age District/County
1842 GREGG BARBRA F 19 BARR AYR
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John GREGG {M} [P8]

Born 28 Mar 1843, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
Christened 9 Apr 1843
IGI - name: John Gregg gender: Male baptism/christening date: 09 Apr 1843 baptism/christening place: BARR BY GIRVAN,AYR,SCOTLAND birth date: 28 Mar 1843 father's name: Thomas Gregg mother's name: Marron Caldwell indexing project (batch) number: C11580-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM

Grace Gibson GREGG {F} [P7] = John HARVIE {M} [P2096] > Family [F561]

Married 1876, Barr Ayrshire Scotland

Grace Gibson GREGG

Alias Grace Gibson ARMSTRONG
Alias Grace Gibson HARVIE
Born 28 Jul 1845, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
Christened 10 Aug 1845, Barr by Girvan Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11580-4
Died 26 May 1908, Kirkmichael Ayrs
IGI - Grace Gibson Gregg baptism 10 Aug 1845 BARR BY GIRVAN, AYR, SCOTLAND birth date: 28 Jul 1845 father's name: Thomas Gregg mother's name: Marion Caldwell number: C11580-4 : Scotland-ODM

Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
GRACE GIBSON GREGG b 28 Jul 1845 Barr, Ayrshire (GROS 580/0020/0055)(Ref 4) By 1871 she was the only one of the family left in Barr, having looked after her father to his death.
(i) Partner Mr Armstrong - Daughter Marion went by name Marion Armstrong except for birth registration (20 Dec 1868). Marion married William Allison 24 Jul 1891 (Ref 6) still using Armstrong.
(ii) Married John Harvie/Harvey in 1876 in Barr (Scotlands People Index) and died 26 May 1908 in Barr (Ref 7)
Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
Ref 7 1908 Statutory Death ex Scotlands People 600/00 0006 Kirkmichael, Ayrshire.
Grace Gibson Harvey (Married to John Harvey Labourer); Died 1908 May Twenty Sixth 4h 15m PM Kirkmichael Village; F; 64 yrs; Parents 'John Greig' Labourer (deceased) ------------ -----------; Cause Bronchitis; Informant William Allison Son-in-law Waterside. (Son-in-law did not know names of her parents. Even Grace's father was named Thomas and NOT John!).

John HARVIE

Born 1876, Barr Ayrs Scotland

    = Father of Marrion Gregg[P1397] ARMSTRONG {M} [P1913] > Family [F432]

Married No

Father of Marrion Gregg[P1397] ARMSTRONG

Born ABT 1845
Partner of Grace Gibson Gregg

Janet GREIG {F} [P1915]

Born ABT 1848, Barr Ayrs
SOURCE: Censi

Sarah GREIG {F} [P1914] = Thomas ROSS {M} [P1923] > Family [F543]

Married 13 Jul 1873, Glasgow Scotland

Sarah GREIG

Alias Sarah ROSS (13 Jul 1873)
Born ABT 1850, Barr Ayrs
SOURCE: Censi
Source Catherine Aitken JULY 2008: 'Thomas was also born in Barr he was son of James Ross and Sarah McGarva'.

July 2008 Catherine Aitken by email: < cathyaitken@btinternet.com >
Hi, my name is catherine aitken and was interested in your website I recently came across
.Ive been doing my family tree and my husbands for some time now but its my husbands yours is connected too in some way.
He is decendant from Thomas Greig and Marion Caldwell from Barr.
They are his grt,grt grandparents through their daughter Sarah Greig b. 1850 who was married to Thomas Ross at Glasgow on 13 july 1873.
Thomas was also born in Barr he was son of James Ross and Sarah McGarva.
Sarah Greig and Thomas,s daughter Barbara Jane Ross married Daniel Rankin in Glasgow, and their daughter Mary Ann Rankin was my husbands grandmother.
It seems you possibly may have a connection to my husband Angus. ..Daniel Rankins parents were Donald Rankin and Mary Ann Gregorson(Mcgregor) from Oban, Argyll.
Mary Ann was the granddaughter of John Gregorson of Ardnitornish(He is direct decendant from Rob Roy Mcgregors family) and also Murdoch Maclaine and Jane Campbell of Mull(decend from scottish royalty and robert the Bruce).
We were surprised too find out who we were connected to as my mother in law only knew her grandparents names and had no idea she was decendent from gentry .
Mary Ann Gregorson left Mull at a young age, married Daniel, had 2 children and also died very young aged 24 in Govan!.
I noticed you were also researching Burns .I am also researching my grand father Robert Burns from Ayrshire he was born 1865,
His father was James Burns who was from Ayr, born around 1830 and im still trying to find who his parents are (I cant find his death record in glasgow.)
Maybe a long shot, I could be decendant from Rabbie Burns who knows!! Anyway hopefully this may help your family tree in some way. You could let me know, many thanks Cathy Aitken

Thomas ROSS

Alias Thomas GREIG
Born Barr Ayrs Scotland
Source Catherine Aitken: Thomas was born in Barr he was son of James Ross and Sarah McGarva

Agnes GREIG {F} [P1916]

Born ABT 1852, Barr Ayrs
SOURCE: Censi

Family

IGI - groom's name: Thomas Gregg bride's name: Marion Caldwell 12 Jun 1835 Dalmellington, Ayr, Scotland: M11586-4
IGI - groom's name: Thomas Gregg bride's name: Marion Caldwell 31 May 1835 Girvan, Ayr, Scotland: M11594-5
Ref 2 1835 OPR Marriage ex Scotlands People 586/0020 0248 Dalmellington
Thomas Gregg in Parish of Girvan & Marion Caldwell in this Parish were Proclaimed on Sunday May 31st and Sunday June 7th 1835 in order to Marriage. They were married at Waterside on Friday June 12th 1835 by the Revd Robert Houston Minister of this Parish
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Piece: SCT1841/580 Place: Barr-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Barr Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Barr. Folio: 1 Page: 2.
Address: Barr Village on 6 June 1841
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
    GREIG Marion F 30 Agricultural Labourer Ayrshire
    GREIG Margaret F 5 Ayrshire age: 5 1/2
    GREIG Marion F 4 Ayrshire
    GREIG Jane F 2 Ayrshire age: 2 1/2
    GREIG Barbara F 1m Ayrshire
THOMAS GREIG [FATHER] NOT ON CENSUS BUT STILL LIVING RE FURTHER CHILDREN and 1851-1961 Cenus
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This next Census record at Ballantrae could well explain the whereabouts of Thomas:

Piece: SCT1841/579 Place: Ballantrae-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Ballantrae Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Ballantrae. Folio: 2 Page: 3
Address: Little Belleymore on 6 June 1841
    Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
    MCKELVIE John M 30 Agricultural Labourer Ayrshire
    MCKELVIE Mary F 25 Ayrshire
    MCKELVIE Agnes F 15 Ayrshire
    HUNTER Mary F 8 Ayrshire
    GREIG Thomas M 30 Unknown Where born not enumerated b. C.1811
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Ref 5 Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008:
1851 Census of Scotland - Barr (Ayr) 30 March 1851
  Thomas Greig, age 40, born 1811 Ayr (Ayr) - laborer
  Marion Greig [Cauldwell]- wife, age 42, born 1809 Barr (Ayr)
  Grace Greig - dau. age 5, born 1846 Barr (Ayr) - scholar
  Janet Greig - dau. age 3 born 1848 Barr (Ayr) - at home
  Sarah Greig - dau age 1, born 1850 Barr (Ayr)
  [Barbara is not present because she is working as a servant aged 9 (See under Barbara's details) ]
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Ref 4 Info Courtesy Mary Martin April 2008: GRO:580/00 001/00 016
1861 Census of Scotland - Barr (Ayr) 44 East End 7 April 1861
  Thomas Greig, age 50, born 1811 Ayr (Ayr) - agricultural laborer
  Marian Greig [Caldwell] - wife, age 52, born 1809 Barr (Ayr)
  Jane Greig, dau. age 22, born 1839 Barr (Ayr) - muslin sewer
  Grace Greig, dau. age 15 born 1846 Barr (Ayr) - agricultural labourer
  Sarah Greig, dau, age 11 born 1850 Barr (Ayr)
  Agnes Greig, dau. age 9 born 1852 Barr (Ayr)

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